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Kathyc private msg quote post Address this user
Hi folks I just loved the video of Phil and MaryLou that I posted it to a few of my facebook friends that I knew would enjoy it too. I got this comment from Pat Alger who toured the UK as the boys opening act in 1984 and 1985 and did lots of Stateside shows:-

What a fun video - it made my day. Phil was such a fun-loving guy and always knew how to relax and be in the moment without pretense. I was lucky to have ridden on his bus from 1984 - 1992 and we had more laughs and interesting conversations than I can ever remember. He was a real person who always looked you in the eye and listened to what you were saying. One of the finest pure singers that have ever lived. His rhythm guitar playing was never really appreciated but he really knew guitars and what he was doing. Thank you for sharing this. I miss him ...

I've looked at my photos and only have one of Pat which I'm attaching, I took it in 1984 - unfortunately Phil had just accidently tipped a glass of white wine down himself and was messing around - as I took the photo someone decided to join in on Phil's fun and stuck their digit in Pat's ear, it was either Terry or Albert, I didn't notice at the time I was too busy taking the shot perhaps if Terry views this he will confess or deny.
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks Kathyc!

Cute photo and so nice to hear thoughts on Phil from people who knew him.
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craiglhope private msg quote post Address this user
"He was a real person who looked you in the eye and listened to what you were saying." 100% correct. It was about old, classic cars with me in West Philadelphia before going onto the Music Theater Stage.
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MeFloody private msg quote post Address this user
Kathy, thank you so much for posting this. I love any thing that highlights Phil's happy nature. I remember seeing Pat with the brothers at the RAH and a few other venues but for the life of me I can't recall any of his songs 😄
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LizzieB private msg quote post Address this user
Thank you Kathy.
Love to read your uploads .
Phil just seemed to have a very easy going nature.
xx
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ChrisW private msg quote post Address this user
@Kathyc
Thank you for that wonderful true story about a wonderful man Kathy.
I wish I could have been on that bus with you during those years, what lovely memories you have and share.💕
Thank you for highlighting his guitar prowess too.
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Kathyc private msg quote post Address this user
Chris: it was Pat Alger who was on Phil's tour bus 84 - 92 not me! I just posted his comments.

MeFloody I too cannot remember what dear Pat sang, remember it was good and entertaining. Think I watched two of his shows - I actually spent more time socialising with Pat than watching. To be honest if you were me and had the choice of watching the opening act or spending that time backstage with you know who - would you have watched the opening act?? Only watched Ralph McTell once too, but never told him - he was nice too.
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Jeanroberts private msg quote post Address this user
Great, natural photo Kathy! So good to see Phil in happy times! So photogenic were Don and Phil, their characters shone through, especially Phil's! Nice to hear someone who knows, say that Phil didn't get aclaim for his guitar playing! He really knew guitars! Hence, no doubt, his guitar string business! Do hope that it is still a successful business!

I’ve just read through ‘Ike's Boys’ When it came to the split, I could have cried! Yes, indeed they needed time apart! I think they were thinking of two or three years apart.....well Don, not so much Phil. Did Don really say to Phil...’Don’t call me!’ ?

Ten long years it went on! Could they really have not acknowleged a single ‘Thanks Giving’ ‘Birthdays’ ‘Christmas’ ‘Easter’ to each other! And their father dying, didn't seem to bring them close. They both must have been heart broken, I hear they spoke at the funeral but didn't hang out together! How must their mother have felt?

Maybe because they both had a new wife at that sad time, there was someone to turn to! My goodness!

The reunion was for them, never to be forgotten! It certainly was glorious! Bless them!

So, sooo glad Phil married a lovely lady, Patti! I'm sure she really loved him! His grandchildren brought Phil such joy! Where was Don in those last years? All reports said they were estranged!? Even Jason is not really sure, but he may have had to work away whenever the work he wanted came in and he also had a family too!

I wish Don would write his version of their life! Even if he just talked to someone and that someone wrote it down! He should do this, to put the story straight from his own point of view! xxxxx
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ChrisW private msg quote post Address this user
Jason has said in interviews that Phil has put a lot down on tape with Jason. So if ever Don wants to put a book together there will also be Phil's account safely saved to add to Don's. Hopefully something will come from them both in one book.
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Jeanroberts private msg quote post Address this user
Yes Chris, I do hope so! I remember Jsson saying ....’but my father won’t dig the dirt on anyone!’ xxxxx
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
I highly doubt Don would ever want to write a book or even participate in someone else writing one.

And if Phil didn't spill any good tea, what's the point?

Leave everyone with their own sweet memories.
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Jeanroberts private msg quote post Address this user
Ha Ha! Redhead! I agree! What's the point of an autobiography if one doesn't spill the beans! Has to be true of course! xxx
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Kathyc private msg quote post Address this user
Jean I believe Don called Phil on his 40th birthday, but the phone went to voice mail so he didn't leave a message. So the reunion could maybe have been a few years earlier. Please don't blame Don he is one hell of a fabulous lovely brilliant and talented man. I have only spoken to my sister once in the last 12 years. If I never speak to her again I don't care. On the other hand my brother and I are in constant touch and he lives all the way away in New Zealand, don't think he has talked to our sister in over 25 years. Her loss.
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
Neither my brother, sister nor I have spoken (except at my father's funeral) for 18 years and running. We all live within 20 minutes of one another, too. I try several times a year to reach out but hear nothing back.

A lot of families have issues and each person involved has their own truth and ways of seeing things so I agree, it's not fair to blame Don. None of us lived their lives. I would love to read a tell all, but like I said above, it's not likely to happen.
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Kathyc private msg quote post Address this user
Agree Red
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Jeanroberts private msg quote post Address this user
Kathy, it’s nice to know that Don may have phoned Phil on his fortieth birthday! I'm sure Phil would have loved to have done the same! However, it seems he couldn't because Don said ‘Don’t call me!’ And of course Don's fortieth birthday came up first!

Thankfully, I'm very close to my sister and brother and we are always in touch, everyday on ‘message’. and catch up phone calls! Health reasons have stopped the regular visits these last two years! Although Christmas and Easter we were still gathered for a few very festive days at mine and Graham's home!

Don and Phil are just one sibling each! I feel for Don losing Phil. He says they had a very difficult relationship. This must have been in part the fact that Phil took Don's children under his wing when Don could not freely see them! Phil taught Edan to play guitar! A very difficult situation but one where Phil felt love strongly for Don's children? That in part would be because Phil loved Don dearly!

Don needed his space to do the things he wanted to do! In doing this he had to make Phil redundant by breaking up the Everly Brothers! This would not have been easy, hence it was heart breaking for Phil, who poured his heart out over the phone to Terry Slater the whole night of the last show! Terry said Phil was very, very upset!

They did there best to keep it together after the reunion! Not speaking to each other too much must have simply been a way of stopping arguments errupting! Bless them, they were just a terrific phenomenon! How hard must that be to cope with? How glad we are to have their harmonious singing filling our lives! xxxxx
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
On topic here, I am from a family of 5 kids and I sometimes say "the definition of family is somebody feels slighted." That's usually what causes the rifts, someone thinks another family member was treated better, or got more, or is more favored is some way or another.
In Don and Phil's case, Don could write a book but there are plenty of statements from the brothers, and interviews. The two biggest factors seemed to be the constant proximity and that one could do nothing without the agreement of the other. Don said "we were like a team of oxen, yoked together."
The second thing seemed to be that they were just very different men. Phil was a conservative Republican, Don a liberal Democrat, and Don has said "I just can't understand why anyone would be a Republican." That leaves no room for discussion of many of the major topics of the times. Phil liked to be at home, and was an involved Dad, once saying to People magazine "I have overactive parental glands." Don has acknowledged being a more distant parent.
Other stuff, like Don singing the lead and doing most or all of the talking, probably added something, but I never heard a complaint about that.
So I don't think a book would reveal more. I'm friends with their mother and she'll say something here or there, but it's not more enlightening than what I quoted above that the brothers have said themselves. They needed space, and earned it. Money was running a little low during the time off, and then Linda Ronstadt recorded "When Will I Be Loved" in 1975. Phil received $70,000 from that recording just the first year, which would be like approx $350,000 or a bit more now. That provided a major boost. Eventually the money was a factor, but no doubt the rush of singing together really got them back. You notice Don at the Albert Hall shows saying "this is quite an experience. I'm not sure if I'm really here."
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
Preston -

Welcome to our forum! Is that you in the photo with the boys when you were 6 years old? What state do you live in? I am in Minnesota.
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craiglhope private msg quote post Address this user
Wow, what excellent, true, cogent comments on families, etc. Yep, different peas in a pod. I've seen it many times in relatives. Love, hate, and everything in-between. Go figure. I like to civlly discuss in a quiet conversation religion, romance, money, politics, but have learned the hard way to keep quiet. People are too volatile and have hair-trigger tempers, opinions, beliefs. The world is a big place and there's plenty of room in the choir for everyone and, as was so well stated in all of your comments, it is miraculous what they did and how they persevered for about half-a-century. They had that talent and it was their career and they made money. Ups and downs, like everything else, especially in show-biz.
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
Yes, that’s me at age 6 with the brothers. I was crazy about them and my Dad knew Perry Como and phoned to arrange for me to spend time with them. It was a surprise and I was stunned. I remember every second. I live in Connecticut but used to travel to Minnesota on business when I did advertising for General Mills. Craig, yes, they climbed a mountain with their talent and most acts get 5 years if they are lucky. The Everlys were biggest 1958-63 but drew crowds the whole rest of their lives. I saw Dion open for them once and he said “you should see them backstage. The epitome of cool. They’re like Cary Grant and Gary Cooper.”
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
Preston -

I recall reading (somewhere) that you got to hear them sing Problems for the first time that day. Later you were disappointed to learn that Phil didn't like the song because it was the first they issued that failed to sell a million copies. Did they get that story right?
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
That is exactly right. They sang it for me and it disturbed the rehearsal. Perry Como turned around to see why they were making so much noise and he saw me at 6, on crutches, and he waved everyone to be silent until they finished. Very touching and it was nice of the boys to risk irritating him so I could hear the new song. It came out a week later.
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
The boys and Perry were class acts. How exciting for you!

I can't recall the reason for the crutches ... polio? Or am I way off?
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
It was a hip disease called Perthes. It took 5 years to heal but no after effects of any kind. You have to be on crutches with one foot chained up to prevent putting weight on the diseased hip. Thanks for asking. So speaking of families,some in my family thought I got extra attention for being “crippled” and that I LIKED it. Not true. I remind them I couldn’t walk!! Not fun. But I did meet the Everlys and sit in the 5th rowbwhen the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan, so that helped.
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Redhead1966 private msg quote post Address this user
I totally believe you that some thought you liked it. Funny how we all want what the other person has never giving a thought to the drawbacks of what they have. It doesn't matter what it is we rarely think of the drawbacks.

You see someone who is wealthy and wish for their life. But they may not know who to trust - who likes them for themselves and who only wants their money? Drawbacks come in all shapes and forms.

You got some great perks though getting to meet the Everlys and seeing the Beatles!

I'm glad you fully recovered!
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ChrisW private msg quote post Address this user
I read your story through the years Preston, thank you for confirming it is correct.
Good to see you on this forum too 😊
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craiglhope private msg quote post Address this user
Great dialogue, Preston & Redhead. Thanks to all. Yeah, liked you liked to be afflicted with crutches, etc., etc., Preston! People are strange indeed. Redhead, we all knew of a wealthy family here and all of us guys wished we were the 18-yr-old, rich guy who went on great vacations and had two new cars when he graduated from HS, so it was a shock when the police found him dead inside one of the cars, from over-drinking, drunk. Ironic, since his father owned a big liquor company. We all were kind of quiet re our wishes after that. Wow, Preston, you were watching history in the making re The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show. That was when things changed and the British Invasion started. I had only bought one Elvis record, a few early Stones records, one Chuck Berry album, one Ray Charles LP, but tons of Everly Brothers records back in the day. Had a lot of RP's and they were so kind to autograph them all at The Bitter End club in NYC one night when I was mesmerized by "Lord of the Manor."
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
Craig, yes, the first time I heard "Lord of the Manor"(and was mesmerized) was at the Troubadour in LA around 1968. The Everlys had a week there, two shows a night, I think at 8 and 11. I was in high school, but after going to the first show, I went every night after I figured out how to sneak in since I couldn't afford tickets to that many shows. I'm sure I didn't do a lick of homework that week, and was tired in school, but first things first. The tickets were probably $20, a great deal, but not if you wanted to go 10 times. The show they did is essentially the one in their live album, "The Everly Brothers Show" I think it's called, recorded at the Grand Hotel in Anaheim. Later on, Phil played solo at the Palomino in North Hollywood. He left one night in a '58 Cadillac and I discreetly followed him home. Once I knew where he lived, I drove by often since I lived about 10 miles away. Eventually, there was a for sale sign in front of the house, and I was by then an advertising executive in San Francisco with business trips to LA here and there. I wrote a letter to the realtor and got him to take me through the house. Yes, I know, a little too nosy, but I was an ardent fan for 25 years by then and people were seeing the house, so why not me? Andy Griffith lived 5 doors down in the old Bing Crosby mansion, and he sold the house to Jerry Van Dyke when he was on "Coach" and could afford such a home. The people who bought Phil's house changed the address from 10414 to 10417. I think that prevented them from getting a lot of Phil Everly mail that they didn't want. I of course would have received all of that mail!
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Hi Preston, I didn’t know your story but it has been so interesting to read, thanks for sharing. It is so heartwarming to realise how very kind the Everly Brothers were to their fans and I have learned such a lot about them since joining this Forum. The more I learn the more I admire and respect them and so wish I could have attended some of their concerts. My experience now has to be second hand, but I am not complaining.
On the subject of fraternal relationships, my husband and his brother, 18 month age gap between them, and were so different, didn’t even look alike. Didn’t get along much...had long estrangements until twenty five years ago when my husband learned his brother had terminal cancer, he went straight to his brother and they had a couple of months together, visiting old childhood places etc.,
and my husband would read to him as his brother became weaker, you get the picture? Basically they loved each other and were reconciled in time to say goodbye. As we say in the U.K “There’s nowt so queer as folk”. My husband was the younger brother.
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Preston private msg quote post Address this user
Yes, Roxy, the Everlys had something like what you related about your husband and his brother. They were tied at the hip since childhood and no doubt had a lot of fun and closeness. Then music became "work" and managers, lawyers and accountants were involved, plus the ruinous divorces. When they split up, their father, who was their hero and icon, said "Well, you'll never be as big apart as you were together." And that was quite so. Though they squabbled and kept their distance to make it OK when they united on stage, there was an underlying connection that nothing could shake. As you've undoubtedly seen, Don's quote when Phil died was something like this..."I was listening to a piece of his music right before I was notified, and I think that was Phil saying goodbye to me. Our brotherly love exceed any earthly differences we had." You could look it up, it wasn't those exact worse, but very close. Glad your husband and his brother had that time together at the end. Sometimes it's the younger brother who ends up taking the lead in those situations.
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